@kuketzblog Very hard to decipher. What does it say, in plain language? That censors wanted F-droid to ban Fedilab and F-droid refused?

@bortzmeyer @kuketzblog

"F-Droid won’t tolerate oppression or harassment against marginalized groups. Because of this, it won’t package nor distribute apps that promote any of these things. This includes that it won’t distribute an app that promotes the usage of previously mentioned website, by either its branding, its pre-filled instance domain or any other direct promotion."

Pretty clear to me! 👍

@rysiek @kuketzblog But completely irrelevant since, apparently the issue at stake was quite different. (People who wanted to ban Fedilab because it doesn't implement their blocking list.)

@bortzmeyer @kuketzblog well, they explain later that fedilab is implementing certain things that seem to make it okay.

@rysiek @kuketzblog There is no problem at all with Fedilab. The problem is with the censors. (But it is hard to discuss since most people, like the F-droid staff, remain very vague and never discuss concrete things.)

@bortzmeyer @kuketzblog concrete things here are pretty simple: while free speech is important, it is not an acceptable defense when we're dealing with a group that harasses, attacks, or explicitly calls for other groups to be hurt.

What we're talking about here is the Paradox of Tolerance:

F-Droid, Tusky, and a majority of the Fediverse are taking a stance here. A stance against intolerance.

@rysiek @kuketzblog And for Tusky, it is a matter of power: who should be in Control, the user or the developper? I'm not surprised most programmers think it should be the developper, and that he/she has a right to decide what the user can/cannot see.


@bortzmeyer @rysiek @kuketzblog ah, what a bullshit. Like we show/hide content for the user or decide who you can talk to.
No, if you hang out on the Nazi instance - go and use another client. We won't prevent other users from seeing your bs or from talking to you but we won't provide service to you.
We don't get more control by having less users, quite contrary. Don't twist it.

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