@strypey there is nothing wrong with Telegram crypto, that "don't roll your own" is just an excuse
@charlag but you can start a secret chat (e2e encrypted) with 200+ millions of users. Plus calls are always e2e encryped (of course).
@alexl I'm from Russia and I used Telegram a lot because of the network effect, it's very popular here. I used it like 3 times during 4 years or so to send passwords and such.
E2E is possible and should be on by default, like in Signal, Wire and soon Matrix. You shouldn't have to opt into anything.
And let me ask you about Telegram's business model.
@charlag Whatsapp doesn't have e2e encryption, it claims so, but without the source code of the clients we can't know.
And Whatsapp is a service by Facebook. Its business model is collecting users data. If Whatsapp really has e2e encryption what it collects are metadata, because I doubt Facebook does beneficence.
@alexl I don't trust them either. I just provided some examples. "Experiences" is a very poor excuse for security and privacy (some Russian opposition politicians been in trouble because police hijacked cellular and logged into their accounts. Shouldn't have happened.)
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